On the thread about airport security, the attack on Norway barged into the discussion. At first (like many elsewhere), Steve's thoughts appeared to suggest he thought it likely to be jihadist. Of course, he wasn't to know that it wasn't (or that the source of claims that an Islamist group claimed responsibility was pretty dubious - but from a media-lauded 'security expert').
Still, I was taken a little aback by this:
Alternatively, if it's determined that he is insane, he may be committed.
Still, I was taken a little aback by this:
Hmm. It does appear that the perpetrator did have links to groups like the EDF and other far right anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim groups. His manifesto cites and praises many people who some consider to be 'hatemongers' on the right.Doctor Fate wrote:Neal Anderth wrote:[The official said the attack "is probably more Norway's Oklahoma City than it is Norway's World Trade Center."
Maybe. Our government has misinformed us how many times? Every terror attack here is a "lone wolf" until it turns out he was emailing Anwar al Awlaki.
How refreshingly open-minded of you. If it were a Pakistani immigrant who'd been arrested and someone had taken the exact same position, I'm sure you'd appreciate their circumspection and in no way suggest that they were trying to deflect blame...I'm not ready to concede for at least a week.
Apparently there was a policeman there, who was among the first to be shot. Why did you assume your point was 'obvious'?It is crazy that one man could shoot so many. Sad indeed. Obviously, he knew the island would not have armed guards, police, etc.
As far as I can tell, this is also incorrect. The standard maximum determinate sentence in Norway is indeed 21 years. However an indeterminate sentence can be applied which includes a test of whether the prisoner is a danger or not, and can potentially mean that every 5 years (after an initial period of up to 14-21 years) his custody is reaffirmed, leading to life. I'm not sure if anyone has had to serve this, but I think we are dealing with an exceptional case here.The worst part, other than the deaths themselves, may be the punishment. I read he can get no more than 21 years. That's sick.
Alternatively, if it's determined that he is insane, he may be committed.