What were Carter Page's crimes?
He didn't have to be guilty. They were looking for a warrant because they were suspicious of him. You get a warrant to try and determine, with evidence provided by searches and surveillance allowed by the warrant, if the suspicions were warranted.
For Page this suspicious activity started, at least as far back as 2013...
We all know this. Or, maybe we don't:
Our former FBI agent reader writes to take issue with Byron York’s assertion that the FBI wiretapped Carter Page in 2013. He says it’s much worse than that and that this is almost certainly what happened:
Back in 2013 the FBI was listening to its standard, ongoing, FISA coverage of all things Russian. They were NOT investigating or wiretapping Page. The FBI was investigating and wiretapping Russians. It had no idea who Page was. By listening to Russians, however, the FBI discovered that Page was in touch with Russians.
What they would have done next is standard operation procedure in the counterintelligence world: they did some background on Page, contacted him, and got him to cooperate against those Russians. Anyone who read the court filing in the resulting case–including the Russians–would have had no trouble figuring out that Page had been cooperating with the FBI.
The likelihood that the Russians almost certainly knew all this–and we know they characterized Page as an “idiot”–makes the notion that all of a sudden in 2016 they were using Page as some sort of master spy even more absurd than it already was on its face.
Bear in mind, the FBI can’t get a FISA warrant on a US Person just for talking to Russians. They have to show probable cause that the US Person is engaged in “clandestine intelligence activity” (i.e., real “spy stuff”) on behalf of the Russians. That’s not something that can ordinarily be established by a phone conversation or two since, by the very nature of the thing, “clandestine intelligence activity” is kept … clandestine.
Color me skeptical in the extreme that anything of the sort was presented to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. So I’d say there’s probable cause to believe that we haven’t heard the last of this, and it’s not going to get better. http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2 ... r-page.php
If Page is a Russian spy, why hasn't he been charged with espionage? If he's a criminal, why hasn't he been charged with a crime? Surely the investigation can't gain much steam with his name in the public like this? So, where's the evidence that Page is anything but "an idiot?"
Let's have some sunlight!
Is that what the Nunes memo is?
Or is Wray correct when he says the memo is distorted?
Do you think the Dems memo should be released?
Yes, it is sunlight.
Put Wray under oath and let's have at it.
Release the Democratic memo!
I'm not "afraid" of the truth. I suspect we're going to see abuse of the FISA system.
The notion that the Steele dossier was essential to the granting of the warrant is unsupported by anything Nunes presented. He never referenced the Australian intelligence reports, the interceptions of Russian communications regarding page as early as 2013, nor anything else the FBI is supposed to have...
If the dossier was used at all
that is problematic unless the funding of it was given to the court IN FULL, not just "it may have political connections," but "The DNC and Clinton campaign paid to have this put together."
Nunes is doing Trumps bidding, in order to undermine Mueller before he does what what Trump knows is coming ... (You can't hide money laundering forever.)
1. You have no evidence for saying this about Nunes. In fact, Gowdy and others have made it clear they want the Mueller investigation to be completed. So, this is a bogus assertion.
2. Yawn. Evidence wins. Your persistent blathering doesn't. And, no, I don't want to prove Trump innocent of something you cannot prove he's guilty of. Your claims are empty of proof.
If Nunes really cared about the Fisa process he would have done something very different a couple of weeks ago in Congress.
What if, and I know this is difficult for your liberal mind to handle. there is only one thing wrong with the FISA process, namely some people with a bias against Trump and for Clinton abused the process?
Can I prove that? Well, no. I can prove that some involved in the investigation did.
And, I want more information released.
Oddly, it's the LEFT--liberal media and liberal pols, who all supported Hillary--who want less sunlight.
The same people who have consistently cheered on leaking from the Vietnam War forward are all of the sudden worried about releasing information to the American people.