freeman3 wrote:Bottom line: it's immoral to deports kids who came over with their parents and have been here a long time. There was overwhelming support for the DACA because people saw the simple justice of it. And that is why Obama did something about it because the merits are so clear.
No, it's not "immoral" to follow the law. If you don't like the law, change it. We have a process and it does not involve a king nor royal decrees.
Obama had no right to do it. He said so himself.
Why worry about the Constitutional question if the action is correct and Obama's order has not been overturned? I am not going to worry about abstract constitutional questions when people are going to suffer.
Where's the fire? Is the union in jeopardy?
Inow, there is no emergency, no reason not to abide by the Constitution.
I am shocked an officer of the court would say "Why worry about the Constitutional question?"
Yes, why bother with the law? It's a trifling thing after all.
From such sentiments is anarchy born.
There is a legal doctrine known as "ripeness." The lawsuits are wending their way to the courts now. I'd be happy to see how they turn out. Let's have Congress do nothing and wait, okay?
There is no way DACA is Constitutional. The President changed immigration law by fiat.
You might legitimately tighten up the program to make sure it includes only people who came over as kids and have been here a long enough time to become accustomed to American life...but deportation of kids who have been here many years is just wrong.
Nope. It's the law.
Oh, and what of the "dreamers" who have committed murder and other heinous crimes? (please challenge me for examples--say they don't exist)
Kicking it to Congress was just a ploy to avoid political fall-out. My guess...is that he hopes that Congress will not come with s DACA plan or he will trade that...for border funding. Otherwise, he will veto a Congressionsl fix.
I think it's brilliant. Democrats will have to finally get real. We either have borders or we don't. If we don't, then we might as well stop paying taxes and wait for someone to take us over because it will happen.
Countries that don't control their borders are not countries for long.
Another bad moment in Trump's presidency.
Meh. Right away, he caved to Pelosi and sent out a tweet of reassurance to the "dreamers." He's all bluster and no mustard.