freeman3
Yes. Alaska and maybe northern British Columbia...
http://uk.businessinsider.com/north-kor ... cbm-2017-7
rayjay
Does it? On the one hand the Trump administration is threatening Chinese steel exports, and on the other they want China to intervene in North Korea...
A lot of actors around the world are confused by Trump. Including his own staff apparently, as his priorities and positions change on his whim.
What is clear, after the G20, is that most of the world, including especially China and Japan, are expanding their relationships. Japan just signed a trade deal with the EU.
China is now the EU's second-biggest trading partner behind the United States and the EU is China's biggest trading partner.
The US is out of step with the direction of the world right now, and trying to force China into acting on North Korea will not have any affect. They have too many options, and the options are appealing because they also mean China's influence increases. The abandonment of the TPP, which was meant to isolate China, has opened the door for them...
If you try and look at this from China's view point:
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/china- ... lationship
Nuclear weapons are lousy weapons. If used, for most countries that use them, the result would be at best disastrous and at worst oblivion.
They make great bargaining chips however.... Which is why NK has developed them. In order to continue regime survival the Kims need something that can dissuade invasion... The artillery destruction of Seoul was their first threat. The nuclear threat the second.
If you think about it, the development of nuclear capability is rationale if the goal is regime survival.
The threat of their use in a defensive reaction is enough to take military action off the table.
So talk.
An ICBM that only reaches a few inhabitants
Yes. Alaska and maybe northern British Columbia...
North Korea claims that it has launched its first intercontinental ballistic missile, or ICBM, which experts say could have the ability to reach Alaska.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/north-kor ... cbm-2017-7
rayjay
.Regarding Ricky's posts on Chinese economic leverage, he's confused. Yes, the Chinese can create shocks to the west's financial system. But it is a lot easier to reallocate capital than it is to close factories that employ over 100 million people. The US has much more economic leverage
Does it? On the one hand the Trump administration is threatening Chinese steel exports, and on the other they want China to intervene in North Korea...
A lot of actors around the world are confused by Trump. Including his own staff apparently, as his priorities and positions change on his whim.
What is clear, after the G20, is that most of the world, including especially China and Japan, are expanding their relationships. Japan just signed a trade deal with the EU.
China is now the EU's second-biggest trading partner behind the United States and the EU is China's biggest trading partner.
The US is out of step with the direction of the world right now, and trying to force China into acting on North Korea will not have any affect. They have too many options, and the options are appealing because they also mean China's influence increases. The abandonment of the TPP, which was meant to isolate China, has opened the door for them...
If you try and look at this from China's view point:
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/china- ... lationship
China regards stability on the Korean peninsula as its primary interest. Its support for North Korea ensures a friendly nation on its northeastern border and provides a buffer between China and the democratic South, which is home to around twenty-nine thousand U.S. troops and marines. “Chinese leaders have no love for Kim Jong-un’s regime or its nuclear weapons, but it dislikes even more the prospect of North Korea’s collapse and the unification of the Korean Peninsula with Seoul as the capital,” writes CFR President Richard N. Haass.
Beijing has consistently urged world powers not to push Pyongyang too hard, for fear of precipitating regime collapse and triggering dangerous military action. “Once a war really happens, the result will be nothing but multiple loss. No one can become a winner,” said Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi in April 2017, urging the United States and North Korea to show restraint.
The specter of hundreds of thousands of North Korean refugees flooding into China is also a huge worry for Beijing. “Instability generated on the peninsula could cascade into China, making China’s challenge of providing for its own people that much more difficult,” says Mike Mullen, former chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff. The refugee issue is already a problem for China: Beijing’s promise to repatriate North Koreans escaping across the border has consistently triggered condemnation from human rights groups. Beijing began constructing a barbed-wire fence more than a decade ago to prevent migrants from crossing, but the International Rescue Committee estimates thirty to sixty thousand North Korean refugees live in China, though some nongovernmental organizations believe the total to be more than two hundred thousand. The majority of refugees first make their way to China before moving to other parts of Asia, including South Korea. However, tightened border controls under Kim Jong-un have decreased the outflow of refugees.
Though Beijing favors a stable relationship with Pyongyang, it has also sought to bolster its relations with Seoul in the South. China’s Xi Jinping met several times with now ousted South Korean President Park Geun-hye, while he has yet to visit or receive the North’s Kim. China was the destination for a quarter of South Korea’s exports in 2016, amounting to $124 million, but recently China has taken retaliatory measures against South Korean businesses to oppose the deployment of a U.S. missile defense system in South Korea’s eastern province of North Gyeongsang.
Experts say China has also been ambivalent on the question of its commitment to defend North Korea in case of military conflict. The 1961 Sino-North Korean Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation, and Mutual Assistance says China is obliged to intervene against unprovoked aggression. But Bonnie Glaser of the Center for Strategic and International Studies says the Chinese government has tried to persuade North Korean leaders to revoke the clause that would force Beijing to come to Pyongyang’s defense. Beijing has also said if conflict is initiated by Pyongyang it would not abide by its treaty obligation.
Nuclear weapons are lousy weapons. If used, for most countries that use them, the result would be at best disastrous and at worst oblivion.
They make great bargaining chips however.... Which is why NK has developed them. In order to continue regime survival the Kims need something that can dissuade invasion... The artillery destruction of Seoul was their first threat. The nuclear threat the second.
If you think about it, the development of nuclear capability is rationale if the goal is regime survival.
The threat of their use in a defensive reaction is enough to take military action off the table.
So talk.