bbauska
RickyP likes to say that we should be like Switzerland and Norway
Please quote me...
I'll quote where I have previously supported limited use of drones in countries that cannot or will not control known terrorists.. I don't think either Switzerland or Norway possess drones..
bbauska
We should economically isolate that nation. We should patrol ALL waterways into the peninsula, and not trade with ANYONE (including China) who is trading with North Korea.
Freeman3
Sounds about right to me
North Korea isn't economically isolated now? What do you think is left to do?
And you'd stop trade with China? Really? Talk to Apple, Ford, well ...any of these companies
http://www.jiesworld.com/international_ ... _china.htmYou gentlemen seem to have a wholly unrealistic view of the world and how it is currently structured and functioning..
And a completely irony free view too. You live in a country that jails thousands for life for petty crimes...
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... ut-parole/freeman3
But, no, we do not have to tolerate North Korea or any other country doing whatever the heck they want to with regard to a US citizen. And we should use increasing levels of pressure until they stop it.
So be specific. Are you willing to go to war over the 3 Americans still being held in North Korea?
And why just them? What about the 8 or 9 in Saudi Arabia?
freeman3
Sometimes you have to put your foot down when another country tries to play chicken with their foreign policy (as in they are so crazy they are willing to risk war over any little thing, never mind if a war started their country would be completely destroyed).
And of course lets ignore the collateral damage.. No worries about the destruction of Seoul... The severe damage a conflict would do to the world economy....
This knee jerk emotional reaction to one young idiot who was responsible for acting horribly stupidly in a country that he knew was immeasurably dangerous is stupid. Senator McCain is right about this... Make idiots sign a waiver when they go to North Korea.
If you guys got worked up about the thousands in US prisons for long periods over similar crimes - there's something maybe you could have some influence on... Your own judicial system ... Write a letter to your congressman about that issue..
There are limits to what a country can do for private citizens travelling abroad. And limits to what they should do. You can't be going to war for every single incident.
If you did, Saudi Arabia would have been bombed into the stone age decades ago. Instead, accommodations for the KSA have been routine. And today the US is increasingly bound up in the Sunni Shiite conflict on the side of the Wahabists... So its unlikely any of those jailed Americans will be coming home soon. Can't upset the Saudis...
Fate
That should keep Kim up at night.
Kim? Tony Kim? I'll bet
he has sleepless nights..
Think Trump and Mattis will get Tony Kim out soon?
Nothing is really changing with North Korea with Trump and Mattis... Mattis is cognizant of the limits on power and the unequal equation that military retribution would generate. At least I hope he is, and not given to the vapours and emotional knee jerk reactions that could lead to calamity.
http://news.sky.com/story/north-korea-s ... s-10861307