freeman3 wrote:In the history of the US there has never been a US president during the transition period who has had this level of contacts with a foreign power. NEVER. This, after said foreign power interfered in our election to get Trump elected. It doesn't happen. It's ridiculous. You want it act like it's normal. It's not normal. It's the US acting like it's a client state of Russia. And nothing substantive has happened with regard to Russia...except not supporting Article 5 which Russia was happy about. Not supporting Article 5 which was huge and substantive vs meaningless bluster.
Scaramucci told bloomberg TV that "what I said to him last night, in my capacity within the administration, was that I would certainly reach out to people to help him." That's kind of hard to do because...US companies are banned from lending or receiving money from sanctioned Russian banks, such as the one run by Dmietriev. The only thing he could do...is work to get sanctions lifted. Does that qualify as evidence for you?
http://www.kyma.com/news/politics/congr ... /557302474
Two Democratic senators want an investigation into Trump/Russia connections? Wow, that's almost like video evidence (except for Democrats, when there actually is video evidence, claim it was altered, but I digress).
Investigate away!
I'm waiting for evidence that:
1. Trump colluded with Russia.
2. The Russians actually changed votes in our election.
3. Some law was broken.
It's laughable he did not try to shut down the Russia investigation. First, he tried to get Comey under his thumb.
You've lost all ability to reason here. It's sad to watch. Really.
Should he have asked Comey to be disloyal?
It's funny: Comey was the scum of the Earth and cost Hillary the election. After his "death," he's become St. James.
When that did not work he still tried to get him to shut down the Russia investigation. When that didn't work he asked other intelligence chiefs to persuade Comey to shut it down. When that didn't work he fired Comey.
Oh mercy.
Did you not hear Comey's testimony? Nothing was going to shut down the investigation until the FBI was done with it. Do you think they stopped just because he got fired?
And, since Comey is such a profligate leaker, do you really think if there was evidence on Trump that NONE of it would have leaked by now?
I don't know what system you are talking about. The evidence so far is these inexplicable contacts with the Russians seeking to mollify them about sanctions and Trump aides lying about it. These were not normal contacts and they are frankly inexplicable.
Because Senators don't meet with the Russians, right? I mean that's
what Sen. McCaskill said. Seeking to distinguish herself from Attorney General Sessions, who explained that previously undisclosed encounters with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak had taken place as a part of his routine senatorial duties, Claire McCaskill all but accused Sessions of lying. McCaskill wanted it to be known that, despite her membership with Sessions on the Armed Services Committee, she had never suffered such a close encounter either in person or by telephone despite her membership on the Armed Services Committee.
Ok. But what about you, Senator?
It didn’t take long to refute McCaskill with her own words in two tweets.
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Oops.
These contacts about sanctions were improper, as Obama was still president. So we need to investigate why these contacts were made. They don't make sense as being normal contacts between an in-coming president and a foreign power, particularly one that sought to help Trump win. That's the "evidence" so far.
Actually, let me help you: those are "allegations" and not "evidence." Or, do you have records and transcripts?
Then you add Trump's panicky attempts to stop the investigation. More evidence.
Nope, that's you attempting to read ancient Mayan and translate it into hieroglyphics.
The smoking gun evidence will come from Trump's financial docs--which we don't have, yet. So, yes, it's premature to say that Trump has been cleared because nothing big has been found..when the main thing that needs to be looked at--financial docs--haven't been looked at. When the investigation is done, it's done. It's not done, yet. Trump is hiding something big, that's very clear. He did not try to shut down the Russia investigation because he was worried that it was interfering with his politicsl agenda. That's a joke.
Here's the joke: you're supposed to give the benefit of the doubt to the person being accused. Instead, you are demanding that he provide the evidence to prove he didn't do things you can't even prove were done. I'd say you're putting the ox before the cart, but you don't have an ox or a cart. You've got nothing but fertile imagination.
Man, you are really sticking with conservative talking points. Mueller and Comey worked for the Bush Administrstion. Oops.
So what?
I don't care if you believe that Trump worked so hard during the Transition period to make contact with the Russians and assure them regard sanctions to help US interests. Nothing about the man would indicate that and it also makes no sense as a policy. When he became president he could changed policy but trying to do it during the Transition period. Please. Believe what you want.
If he's so pro-Russia, how do you explain his policies?
There are a lot of stories about Trump's financial dealings with Russia. We need to find out what they are. I don't hate Trump. But his behavior is of someone who helped Russia to further his interests. Now we got to get the financial docs to prove it.
Sure you don't hate Trump. Right. Okay. Let's go with that.
As Ben Shapiro tweeted:
Imagine Geraldo's regret when he opened Al Capone's vault to find Rachel Maddow's report on Trump's taxes.
You're going to have as much luck seeing his returns as conservatives did looking at Obama's college transcripts.
Inow, you're going to have to make the case another way. Best of luck.