Yahoo News or the Wall Street Journal, those are the closets example sof neutral America has (and even they lean slightly left, but very slight)
freeman3 wrote:Maybe it's obvious but you put RJ when I think you meant to refer to Rickyp...
As for the rest, I don't think it furthers the discussion by seeking to control what other posters should post. Other posters can feel to criticize. Why would anyone defend Trump by the way? Expecting Trump to be a good president is like giving a chimpanzee a typewriter and expecting Shakespeare to come out.
Hillary certainly has her faults but they are way overblown. She's a smart, tough lawyer with a lot of experience.
She will listen to expert people around her. I think it is reasonable to expect that she will not make any huge mistakes as president.
But Trump...come on. He's a joke and he will make us look like a joke.
There is a reason Russia is trying so hard to intervene in our presidential election (which by the way I think is a hostile act that should be responded to in some fashion) to get Trump elected.
bbauska wrote:And hopefully, when he is impeached as President, We would have Pence. Quite a step up.
rickyp wrote:The only presidential candidate who'll be standing trial soon will be Trump, as he answers for the fraud charges against Trump University.
No, I meant RJ. He voted for Hillary because "she's not Trump."
Ray Jay wrote:No, I meant RJ. He voted for Hillary because "she's not Trump."
I haven't voted yet ... I'll prob. vote for Johnson ...
. . . but yes, I would prefer a probable criminal (HRC) to a probable criminal who has no impulse control, is so insecure that he is threatened by any slight, and wants to start a trade war.
.What I cannot abide is someone (like my cousin) who actually believes Hillary has done nothing wrong
rickyp wrote:fate.What I cannot abide is someone (like my cousin) who actually believes Hillary has done nothing wrong
The poor dude. He must actually rely on stuff like evidence and facts to make his decisions.
Get him a subscription to your alt right publications and maybe a diet of innuedo, lies and fantasies will change him to your world view.
It's not a bad idea to see what both sides have to say and Brietbart is very conservative, but let's not pretend these other options are anywhere near neutral either. You want to ignore the right wing bias ...that's fine! But do not assume those listed here are not left wing biased either.
But this style did not start with Trump, of course. It’s the result of a steady devolution of American public discourse that has been most prevalent on the political right. The American right has shown itself to be less wedded to facts and precision in its political speech for at least two decades. Two separate analyses of the three major cable news networks—CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News—found that Fox, the channel most conservatives watch, was by far the least truthful of the three. Multiple studies have found that people who get their news only from Fox know less about the world than people who watch no news at all. Trump’s make-it-up-as-he-goes speaking style was made possible, in fact, by a conservative media strategy that enjoins followers to reject the untrustworthy liberal media, while feeding those followers a steady diet of falsehoods and half-truths. With the rise of Trump, some Republicans are beginning to rue the strategy.
In June, the conservative radio host Charlie Sykes stated that the right’s twenty-year assault on the mainstream media had in fact fueled Trump’s rise, opening the door to his ability to lie so frequently without losing support. Lamenting how difficult it had become to refute the outlandish assertions of some of his own listeners, Sykes said: "At a certain point you wake up and you realize you have destroyed the credibility of any credible outlet out there. And I am feeling that, to a certain extent, that we are reaping the whirlwind of that. I have to look in the mirror and ask myself, ‘To what extent did I contribute?’”
Do not trust the establishment Republicans. Do not trust the establishment Democrats. Do not trust the establishment media.
I doubt everyone.
I don't think I could possibly agree more