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- Neal Anderth
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03 Mar 2011, 8:33 pm
Last night, PFC Manning was inexplicably stripped of all clothing by the Quantico Brig. He remained in his cell, naked, for the next seven hours. At 5:00 a.m., the Brig sounded the wake-up call for the detainees. At this point, PFC Manning was forced to stand naked at the front of his cell.
The Duty Brig Supervisor (DBS) arrived shortly after 5:00 a.m. When he arrived, PFC Manning was called to attention. The DBS walked through the facility to conduct his detainee count. Afterwards, PFC Manning was told to sit on his bed. About ten minutes later, a guard came to his cell to return his clothing.
This type of degrading treatment is inexcusable and without justification. It is an embarrassment to our military justice system and should not be tolerated. PFC Manning has been told that the same thing will happen to him again tonight. No other detainee at the Brig is forced to endure this type of isolation and humiliation.
Jesus was lawfully executed by the Empire. Oh and he was stripped naked and humiliated first.
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- Green Arrow
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03 Mar 2011, 9:35 pm
How did Jesus go against his oath of duty that he swore to uphold?
Non Sequiter...
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03 Mar 2011, 10:21 pm
Was Jesus lawfully executed by the Empire?
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- Green Arrow
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03 Mar 2011, 10:32 pm
Yes,
Did Jesus go against his oath of duty? Certainly Manning did, and is unworthy of Deification.
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03 Mar 2011, 11:27 pm
Jesus wasn't into
oaths. That is why he didn't take them.
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- Green Arrow
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04 Mar 2011, 8:47 am
Semantics.
Did Jesus do the will of the one who sent him?
Did Manning?
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04 Mar 2011, 1:28 pm
PFC Manning was forced to strip naked in his cell again last night. As with the previous evening, Quantico Brig guards required him to surrender all of his clothing. PFC Manning then walked back to his bed, and spent the next seven hours in humiliation.
The decision to require him to be stripped of all clothing was made by the Brig commander, Chief Warrant Officer-2 Denise Barnes. According to First Lieutenant Brian Villard, a Marine spokesman, the decision was "not punitive" and done in accordance with Brig rules. There can be no conceivable justification for requiring a soldier to surrender all his clothing, remain naked in his cell for seven hours, and then stand at attention the subsequent morning. This treatment is even more degrading considering that PFC Manning is being monitored -- both by direct observation and by video -- at all times. The defense was informed by Brig officials that the decision to strip PFC Manning of all his clothing was made without consulting any of the Brig's mental health providers.
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05 Mar 2011, 5:45 am
Green Arrow wrote:How did Jesus go against his oath of duty that he swore to uphold?
Non Sequiter...
Well, it's a clumsy comparison. Mind you, Jesus was a heretic in the eyes of his co-religionists, and was seen as a leader (and perhaps even as an inheritor of tradition), and so would have been seen as in some way leading people from the path - remember that Israel at the time was not a country, so much as an occupied area where the religious orders were the main remaining independent authority.
I take it then that you don't disapprove of such things being done to Manning, if those reports are accurate?
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05 Mar 2011, 6:36 am
If he is guilty he deserves every inch of the sodomy stick.
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05 Mar 2011, 7:13 am
Manning should be treated as any other prisoner in the brig, accounting for possible security breaches. Thus, the lack of contact.
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06 Mar 2011, 3:19 pm
What do you mean by 'should' be treated? What are the consequences if they don't feel like treating him properly?
Why are there consequences for Manning, but none for those that secured the release of a convicted mass terrorist in exchange for back door dealings with Gaddafi? Not to forget that we now have confirmation from his ministers that Gaddafi ordered the thing. Not to mention that Gaddafi is being over thrown thanks to in part to Manning's leaks that helped ignite uprisings in Tunisia. And no thanks to the US/UK that bent over backwards to work with the man, do his bidding, and sell military equipment that's being used on the people of Libya as I write.
So is it fair for Tony Blair to walk free, a man who made dirty deals with a terrorist that murdered US/UK civilians, while Manning a man that exposed mind boggling amounts of corruption is being slowly tortured?
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06 Mar 2011, 4:56 pm
Neal Anderth wrote:So is it fair for Tony Blair to walk free, a man who made dirty deals with a terrorist that murdered US/UK civilians, while Manning a man that exposed mind boggling amounts of corruption is being slowly tortured?
The treatment of others by other governments in different circumstances has nothing to do with Manning.
Manning deserves a speedy trial. And, if found guilty of treason, as he should be, he deserves the full penalty. You think him a hero. I think he is a traitor, a spy, and worthy only of contempt.
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06 Mar 2011, 5:03 pm
Comparing this little traitor to Ghadaffi (and jesus few posts up) is laughable. Any credibility you might have had Neal just sailed out the window past all the bullshit in the cow paddock.
This no good for nothing traitor put troops on the front lines lives at risk by what he did. He deserves a 25cent solution, Bullet to the head over and done with.
Hes not a hero he is a traitor. It's pretty clean cut i really feel sorry for you that you view him as some type of hero.
"Peace will just break out all over the middle East"
G.W.B
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06 Mar 2011, 9:06 pm
If you guys want to double down by making him a martyr, knock yourselves out.
The total of all prison sentences combined for the atrocities of
Abu Ghraib don't even add up to 20 years.
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06 Mar 2011, 9:55 pm
Your the only one i can see calling him a hero and a martyr.
If your offended by the war on terror turn off your TV set. 400 years ago we would have butchered every man women and child in sight, cheered and given medals for it too.
That a few soldiers take a few funny photos and sodomise a few terrorists doesn't give me sleepless nights. When allied soldiers are cutting the heads of POW's then you can come give me your bleeding heart story.
Until then i hope pfc manning enjoys hes romantic evenings with the broom stick.
