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Post 05 Mar 2018, 11:04 am

Interesting though brief discussion on how there has been a waning of support for liberal democracy in the West and the causes.

https://www.vox.com/2018/3/5/17035848/d ... ump-europe
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Post 16 May 2018, 1:55 am

Not a very insightful discussion, though.

Democracy has its limitations. We have to recognize and accept those limitations.
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Post 18 May 2018, 9:07 am

The article just sounds like Leftist make believe, as of late. The oft repeated suggestion that populism is a threat to democracy is absurd, by definition. There's a backlash to elected representatives imposing major policies that citizens didn't consent to and clearly (as shown by polling) didn't want.

Pointing to Brexit and Donald Trump as a failure of democracy is refusing to be chastised by the electorate in favor of your own utopian vision that is hindered by seeking consent.
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Post 18 May 2018, 9:32 am

Neal Anderth wrote:The article just sounds like Leftist make believe, as of late. The oft repeated suggestion that populism is a threat to democracy is absurd, by definition. There's a backlash to elected representatives imposing major policies that citizens didn't consent to and clearly (as shown by polling) didn't want.

Pointing to Brexit and Donald Trump as a failure of democracy is refusing to be chastised by the electorate in favor of your own utopian vision that is hinder by seeking consent.

Did you read the interview?
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Post 18 May 2018, 12:44 pm

danivon wrote:Did you read the interview?


Apparently not.
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Post 22 May 2018, 8:23 am

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Democracy has its limitations. We have to recognize and accept those limitations.


There are various systems that are democratic in nature, in varying degrees. Mounk is criticizing many of the systems for failing to be responsive to the real needs of voters... he is specific about the US system.

Our system has failed at one of the core ambitions of a democracy, which is to translate popular views into public policies. That’s because of the role of money in our politics, because of the revolving door between legislators and lobbyists, and because the political class has become separated from the bulk of the population.


There is no need to accept a democratic system that is unresponsive any more than a need to accept a failing or inefficiency in any institution.

Neal
The oft repeated suggestion that populism is a threat to democracy is absurd, by definition.

Populism is a political philosophy supporting the rights and power of the people in their struggle against a privileged elite.
So, yes, on its face you would expect that populists are offering a response to the masses.
The problem is that historically rarely is populism more than a tool . Example: By using populist platitudes You can fool people into believing that a tax bill will work in their favor, whilst benefiting primarily the elites you have vilified.
Example: You can pit the "masses" against any minority (Ethnic, racial, class), in order to move your agenda forward, benefiting those you favor. But seldom offering much genuine improvement to the mass of people.